I can’t quite believe that it’s nearly two years since I started this podcast. I don’t know if you are like me, but I rarely ever stop to acknowledge my achievements, let alone share how I feel about them. But two years is incredible and I’m actually really proud of what I’ve created. I have had some truly beautiful conversations, and it fills me with so much joy to be able to share them with you. So in this very special episode, I’m recollecting some of my favourite pieces of advice and moments from the show, and I really hope that you enjoy it.
Timestamps:
00:00:00 Celebrating two years of podcasting
00:02:49 The podcast’s core mission and values – holistic wellbeing & kindness
00:08:44 Growth through adversity and taking action
00:15:05 The power of community, connection and safe spaces
00:24:02 Embracing creativity and variety
00:29:44 Favourite moments and guest wisdom
00:31:51 The comparison trap and finding your own path
00:34:46 Reflections on my podcasting journey
00:36:55 Share your stories about how you create your kindspace
Links:
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Transcript:
Caroline: We’ve talked about so much on the show over the last two years! I made a list of just some of the things we’ve covered – career pivots, redundancy, entrepreneurship, moving country, being a carer, singing, brain health, sleep, burnout, suicide and breavement, chronic health conditions, decluttering, life admin, healthy ageing, nutrition, gut health, stress management, smart technology, AI, strength training, mental health, parenting, pets… I could go on!
So that I think gives you a flavour for how diverse my guests have been. But what’s been really interesting going back over these conversations is spotting the commonalities and recurring themes. Some of these common threads, I have definitely felt during conversations and love that in many cases the guests, completely unknowingly, have built on each others advice, and for me I guess I dee it as this like really big jigsaw puzzle and all the pieces coming together to help make the picture clearer. I think what’s been really interesting is how many of those jigsaw pieces that I don’t think I really fully appreciated at the time, so it’s been really wonderful to review each of the episodes and collate them together into something even more beautiful.
I did want to reflect on I guess what I thought were the most important pieces of advice, but I think it actually goes far deeper than that, I think it’s about not just the advice, as in the like top tips or things that people can try but I think it’s that fundamental thing of having open discussions, so I hope that comes across in today’s episode aswell.
From the very beginning, when I was planning out the podcast, I wanted it to focus on, well, there were two core themes. The first was around wellbeing and how wellbeing is a very holistic practice and very personal. And actually depends on lots of different factors, it’s very contextual and really what I think a lot of my guests spoke about was there’s no one easy fix, it requires balance in a number of different areas.
So that was the first theme, all around wellbeing. And then the second theme, which I wanted to include almost as a kind of signature to every episode that ties them all together, was about kindness to self and others. This idea that kindness, both inwardly and outwardly, is a central thread of our wellbeing. It’s the importance of showing ourselves compassion, and that did come up time and time again, even outside of the kind of core question, the ‘how do you create your kindspace?’ question. And do you know, on the face of it, it seems so simple. But it’s something that we all can genuinely struggle with, it’s not easy to show ourselves compassion sometimes and I guess that, again, is why I wanted to have these conversations and really kind of shine a light on what it means to people and how do we embody that in our daily lives because it’s such an important foundation to our wellbeing. One of my earliest guests, Siobhan Jaffray, called this out so directly when she said this:
Siobhan Jaffray: “You can’t hate yourself into a better position. I think with a lot of people, we know what we should be eating, we know we should be having five pieces of fruits and veg a day, eating plenty of protein, staying hydrated. A lot of people don’t need someone telling them what to eat, but what they do need is to start practising a bit of self-love, gratitude, and just self-belief in themselves as well that they can do something.”
Caroline: That really struck a chord with me. So often, we think we can ‘fix’ ourselves by being hard on ourselves, or if we only had more willpower, but true change comes from a place of kindness, not criticism. This critical voice, or inner critic, has come up a lot in my conversations on the show, just like when Dr Jill Williams said:
Dr Jill Williams: “If you were mentoring somebody else, there is no way, if they made a small mistake, you would go, what the hell are you doing? What kind of idiot are you? How have you done this? You would never say that to them because you would know that would be utterly demoralising. And yet we do it to ourselves all the time.”
Caroline: Gemma Stuart, founder of Gut Wealth also highlighted how we need to call this out when see other people criticising themselves too.
Gemma Stuart: “I give myself at times a hard time in a way that I never would to my best friend or my family, or to like a perfect stranger… When I hear my friends doing it to themselves, it really bothers me. I’m like, ‘hang on, why are you talking to yourself like that?'”
Caroline: Many of my guests are coaches of one form or another, even if that’s not officially what they would describe their role as. They recognise that a person’s issues never exist in isolation and that you often need to explore wellbeing in its broadest sense to get to the right solution. Dr Jill Williams, a specialist in burnout, sums this up perfectly.
Dr Jill Williams: “we feel like we leave our everyday life at the door when we walk in the office, don’t we? And although that’s in this professional thing to do, the reality is we’re all humans.”
Caroline: Dr Monika Gostic, a nutritionist specialising in chronic health conditions also talked a lot about the linkage between physical and mental health.
Dr Monika Gostic: “I want to show people that without one, we don’t have the other. So we need to really nourish physical and mental wellbeing together simultaneously. Otherwise, you know, we’re gonna have deficiencies, just like we have nutritional deficiencies. If we don’t manage our stress, we’re gonna have deficiencies there, because mental stress translates into physical stress.”
Caroline: And even when it comes to something like pelvic health, which you might assume is quite a narrow aspect of health, we learned from Rosie Davie that there are many aspects that impact a woman’s health.
Rosie Davie: “I think what makes probably my clinic quite special is probably the fact that I treat patients very holistically. I want to know all about their life. I want to know about their partners. I want to know about their children, I want to know about their house, where they live, what their work’s life, what their work-life balance is like, what their relatives are like, their family support’s like. I want to know about everything about their whole environment, because that really influences how I treat that person.”
Caroline: It’s not been an easy job, boiling down all these conversations over the last two years into key themes, but I think I have arrived at three which came up consistently and that I do believe have a really strong influence on our welbeing. So the first one is Growth Through Adversity and Taking Action, the second one which I’ll cover is The Power of Community, Connection and Safe Spaces and then the last one is all about Embracing Creativity and Variety.
So let’s go through them together now and as we go through I will sprinkle in some more of my amazing guests, because I really do want you to be able to hear from them as well.
One of the most powerful themes that’s come up again and again is the courage to take action and the personal growth that can come through adversity. Many of the conversations on the show touched on overcoming personal challenges such as bereavement, illness, parenting struggles, or career pivots. Gemma Burns, a coach, shared her thoughts on how adversity can reshape our whole life, but it can also help us to discover a new more positive path.
Gemma Burns: “There’ll be tough things that you’ve gone through. Some people absolutely get thrown more than their fair share. Life is shit sometimes it really is. And it’s not fair. And sometimes it’s just finding what it is that we need to do to survive through certain elements, but then to actually grow from it. There’s so much opportunity there to take even difficult times in our lives and turn it into something useful”
Caroline: As Dr Clara Doran, author and founder of Noggin Brain Health, put it:
Dr Clara Doran: “it’s difficult when it’s something different, but you just got to give it a go, don’t you, and see what happens.”
Caroline: Something she describes as funny first times or FFTs for short.
Nutritionist Siobhan Jaffray described pushing through procrastination, building on this idea that it’s better to try and accept that it won’t be perfect.
Siobhan Jaffray: “Yeah, I think if you are thinking about starting a new healthy lifestyle or a diet or whatever you want to call it, just start. Stop waiting for the perfect time because we do this. We wait until like, well, that’s happening this weekend and that’s happening next weekend. I’ll start three weeks from now. I think the longer we put something off, we never start. Not just healthy living, I guess anything. Just make a start. It doesn’t have to be perfect.”
Caroline: Author and creative Birgit Itse describes the moment she realised she needed to make a big change in her life.
Birgit Itse: “you’ve talked me for years how you want to go and live in Scotland. You talked me for years how you want to write books, and you’ve taught me for an hour how you do everything to make other people’s dreams come true. When are you going to live your life? When are you going to make your dreams come true? And I was like…”
Caroline: To me it’s awe-inpsiring to see how resilient people are and how good we are at solving problems and being resourceful. Yes, sometimes it might take a few tries or it might take longer than we’d like, but we always get there. I think Gemma Stuart describes this perfectly.
Gemma Stuart: “you’ll just find a way, right? You’ll just find a way. You’ll pivot a hundred times, but you’ll just find a way to do the thing that you want to do and you’ll move and pivot. But yeah, I always think that you’ll find a way, so to speak.”
Caroline: But it’s not all about the big changes. Taking action can also be about slowing down and really focusing on what is important. When pelvic health physiotherapist Rosie Davie was on the show she talked about how her business had changed over the past year and how rather than expanding as she had thought the focus would be, she now had more clarity on how she wanted to grow her support services to ensure that she didn’t burn herself out in her mission to support more women.
Rosie Davie: “My husband likes to remind me that I only have one body and one mind and one space for so many people. I like to try and treat everyone”
Caroline: Similarly, change doesn’t have to happen all at once. And indeed the more sustainable changes often are the cumulative effect of smaller changes.
Catherine Ann Reid is founder of Doqit, a tech solution to help you keep on top of all that annoying life admin. She advocates for breaking things down into smaller chunks to reduce the feelings of overwhelm.
Catherine Ann Reid: “If you’re at A, how do you get to B? So not thinking about how do I get to Z, but how do I get to B? What is that next step?”
Caroline: When I had decluttering expert, Debbie Junor on the show, she said something very similar.
Debbie Junor: “But for me, it’s like start small. What people do is they think, right, I need to do my whole house. I’m going to start. I need to do this whole room. And then I need to move on. And then they get so overwhelmed.”
Caroline: My most recent guest, Dr Monika Gostic, shared an empowering message about change and taking action.
Dr Monika Gostic: “it’s absolutely okay to change your mind and change your directive and you’re never too old to start something new and something different. And that’s kind of like the rules that I live by.”
Caroline: Despite what you might tell yourself, you are never too old to make changes. My guests have certainly proven that. Here’s what Gemma Burns had to say about not making changes earlier in her life.
Gemma Burns: “You know I’m in my forties, and I look back and think, how many times did I stay in a job or put up with something in a situation in my life where I truly didn’t feel content or happy, but something stopped me from making that change?”
Caroline: These conversations remind me that everyone, no matter how accomplished, faces uncertainty. But it’s in those moments of action that we grow and we learn and often we can surprise ourselves. Maybe you’re listening and thinking about something that you want to change in your life. And I hope these stories encourage you to give it a go. I love what Gemma also said about the unpredictability of life, and her reminder that we don’t have to do everything alone.
Gemma Burns: “It’s such a cliche thing to say. But life is too short. And we don’t know what’s going to happen tomorrow. And If something is truly pulling you down one way or another, change it. And if you need assistance with that, don’t be ashamed to ask for help.”
Caroline: Which leads me really nicely onto the second theme of today’s episode which is about the importance of human connections and having rewarding relationships, where we feel a sense of safety and belonging.
Building supportive networks, whether through family, friends, or professional communities, was a recurring theme with my guests. Although many of my guests acknowledged how challenging this can be to create, such as Pasna Sallis, who is the founder of Weekday Wow Factor, an organisation that helps older adults stay active and build a community of support.
Pasna Sallis: “We’ve all got our own jigsaw piece. That we feel we’re really good at doing certain things in our jigsaw piece. And it’s all about just matching up all the jigsaw pieces for the whole picture. But unfortunately, the way the infrastructure is set out for third sector makes some of the organisations feel as if they’re competing against the other, which is a real shame and it’s a real missed opportunity I think.”
Caroline: In one of my deepest conversations, we talked about how important it is to flip things around and not wait for people to reach out, or until they feel like they are at a crisis point. So how do we create safe spaces where people can talk about what matters to them and how they are really feeling? Holly Clark, founder of Blooming Mind, a specialist mental health and suicide awareness training provider, shared her vision for better suicide prevention support.
Holly Clark: “We must create a community and the world as a whole is able to reach in and support people rather than expecting them to reach out.”
Caroline: Holly also had this advice for anyone worried about someone else and unsure how to approach them.
Holly Clark: “We’re so terrified of upsetting people or making things worse. And actually, the wrong thing to do is say nothing. You can put your foot in it and you can say the wrong thing and you can maybe upset somebody. But actually, you can apologise for that.”
Caroline: When you’re surrounded by people on a similar journey or experiencing something similar to you, it can make all the difference to how you feel and your ability to open up or keep trying. Dr Clara Doran spoke about her apprehension about doing a writers course, that actually ending up leading her to publish her very first book, a memoir of her experiences of being diagnosed with MS.
Dr Clara Doran: “did the course and met some incredible people through it. And again, the support from those people just was the thing that made the difference. That kind of motivated me to keep going.”
Caroline: Many of my guests on the show have discussed the value of sharing stories and learning from others, but also importantly not underestimating or diminishing your own experiences. For example, Birgit, a very experienced writer and journalist by background, said.
Birgit Itse: “I took for granted my writing skills, my storytelling skills, or even the story how I came here, I never thought it was anything special. And then people start to say, It’s so inspirational. I was like, Oh, really? That’s the reason why we should share and write down our stories, because we don’t know how other people perceive and what they might find valuable, inspirational, encouragement for them.”
Caroline: Several conversations highlighted the importance of vulnerability, asking for help, sharing struggles openly as a way of helping them to feel less alone in their struggles. Dr Jill Williams sums this up perfectly.
Dr Jill Williams: “Sometimes it’s great to hear that other people have struggled with things. Other people have messed up and made mistakes. That’s what we want to hear. As well as the inspirational stories of people that have done fantastic. We also need to hear the stories of how many times they’ve failed before they got there.”
Caroline: Catherine Ann Reid gave a really important reminder that in general people love being asked for advice and the worst that can happen when you ask is they say no. No one is going to be judging you.
Catherine Ann Reid: “Just ask. Just ask people for help. Just reach out to people, even if you’ve not met them. People are busy, but people are kind. See, if they say no, you’re not any worse off. But generally, people love being asked for help or guidance.”
Caroline: In the business world, it can be particularly hard to let your guard down. With my podcast guests, I get to have some really deep conversations about being authentic online and the pressure to fit this kind of mould, I guess, of yeah like I mean, especially in entrepreneurship. So if you don’t already follow Gemma Stuart, one of my previous guests just at the tail end of last year, she calls herself a LinkedIn bottom voice, instead of a top voice. So if you’re on LinkedIn you’ll know what mean, like the whole top voice thing, and like the ranking of like, I am the expert in this field, and I just find it so funny how she’s flipped that around and her posts are amazing, you get this real behind the scenes of her business, her journey as an entrepreneur. So, as a little taster, this is what she had to say when she joined me on the show.
Gemma Stuart: “And I just try to be as honest about that experience as I can because I think there’s a lot of people online who are like, oh, I’m 10xing my ROAS. When I read that for the first time, I don’t even know what a ROAS is. It’s your return on your return on ad spend. So how much return you get depends on how much money you spent. Or like, I’m 10xing my revenue and I’m this, that and other. And there’s quite a lot of language around business I just find to be partly, like, it’s, it’s over complicated, but also there’s like, sort of like a… well, I was going to use a rude word there. I can’t think how to word it in another way. There’s a… an exercise where, like, my thing’s bigger than your thing. And it’s just a bit tiring to hear that. Like, I actually really like the stories where people say, oh, I’ve just achieved this thing, so want to tell you how I had to wade through treacle to get there. And here’s how I’ve done it. That, to me, is more interesting. And so that’s what I like, try to talk about”
Caroline: Another common thread with my guests is how they see their role as holding space for others, to listen, to help guide, but ultimately help the other person to find their own path. So, for example, Siobhan Jaffray compared herself to a driving instructor, so the way that she teaches her clients the skills they need to make healthier eating choices, and similarly, parenting coach Pei-I Yang, who I would describe as a sort of modern-day Mary Poppins.
Pei-I Yang: “It is my job to provide that safe space for the families. They are all hurt. They’ve all been through a lot where there’s mental health difficulties, how their teenagers acting out royal style or withdrawn just to show them, I’m not okay, help me.”
Caroline: In many of the conversations, they described how they were effectively working themselves out of a job, building someone’s confidence and knowledge so that they could tackle the problem themselves. Here’s what Dr Jill Williams had to say about her role.
Dr Jill Williams: “I say this to my clients, that’s what I’m doing. I’m basically working to make myself redundant, so you’ve got the skills you need without me.”
Caroline: Another aspect my guests emphasised was the importance of listening to understand. As highlighted previously, in Rosie Davie’s clinic, she needs to understand the bigger picture around what is happening in this woman’s life in order to best support their needs.
Rosie Davie: “And sometimes it’s getting to understand and listen. A lot of physios don’t actually listen to people. Medical professionals are not very good at listening. Usually, patients know what’s wrong with them.”
Caroline: This was a sentiment echoed by Debbie Junor who uses her training in psychology and social care to help better understand the root causes of people’s behaviours and blockers.
Debbie Junor: “anyone can organise and put things in a place, but it’s the actually asking, why can’t they do it? What is stopping that person? Emotionally, why? Because that could change their lives”
Caroline: Throughout the conversations on Create Your Kindspace, creativity is frequently cited as a tool for wellbeing, whether through art, writing, or simply giving permission to play and experiment. So embracing creativity is the third theme that I wanted to talk about in today’s episode.
Several of my guests have talked about the importance of variety in life and trying new things and stepping outside their comfort zone and encouraging others to do so.
In the very first episode, Neil Bebber an author and script writer, talked about how opportunities can come from anywhere and why he says ‘yes’ to even the most unlikely of projects.
Neil Bebber: “In terms of sort of writing, what I’ve realised through, to make a career in writing, you have to say yes to everything. That works for me. It might not work necessarily for other people, but if somebody calls me and asks me if I could create a script for a new AR exhibition stand or something like that, then I say yes. If somebody asks me if I can write a multiple-choice audio play, I say yes. If somebody asks me if I can write a short story to help people sleep, or a screenplay, or a radio play, I say yes. So what that does, it means that I’m constantly learning. My day job never gets boring. But also, it’s just interesting to learn different ways of storytelling, different routes, different ways of presenting, sometimes working with a group.”
Caroline: And creativity is literally everywhere, but I think we forget how important it is or convince ourselves that we aren’t creative or that it is frivolous or unproductive to just create for the sake of it or just as a way of expressing ourselves. Sara Matthews, creator of an amazing experience called Artful Encounters sums this up perfectly.
Sara Matthews: “Creativity exists in doctors and engineers because they have to come up with solutions for something. Creativity is not just limited to the fine arts or whatever art form that we practise, I would say, try something that you feel… As soon as you say to yourself, Oh, this is not me. This is me. Actually, come and try it. And the first step to overcoming that obstacle of you think, I can’t, You’re like, Oh, okay. Because we all hold these misconceptions about things. And so be open and try it once. And if you genuinely don’t like it, at least you tried it. Now you know what it was all about. Because creativity is not limited to one form of expression. There are so many.”
Caroline: The diversity of approaches to creating a “kindspace” has shown that there’s no one-size-fits-all solution; it’s about finding what works for you in your current season of life. I sometimes talk about a wellbeing toolkit, a phrase borrowed from Dr Emma Hepburn, also known as the Psychology Mum. And actually this idea or this concept of having a variety of different things that we can draw upon as we need it, came up quite a few times in our conversations. So I wanted to share one from Xann Schwinn where she talks about her wellbeing bucket.
Xann Schwinn: “We have to learn what it is that makes us feel good and fills our cups. And it’s not going to be the same one size fits all for every single day and every single thing that you’re feeling. Having that wide, I think I did a podcast about wellbeing about a year ago. I think I called it a bucket. I have this wellbeing bucket that I can pull from all the time.”
Caroline: I also really loved, Dr Jill Williams insight into the opposites, the idea that you do things that are completely different to what you normally do or you maybe do for work.
Dr Jill Williams: “There’s one researcher, I think, Nick Petrie, who did a lot in leadership and is now looking at burnout. And amongst their research of talking to people with burnout, one of the things they came up with that seemed to be quite a common theme is people doing something that he called the “opposites”. So that’s where people can lose themselves in something that seems. That is using or doing opposite things from what they do in their work life. So, for example, very often in work life, we’re very much in our head problem solving and decision making. So just going out and taking a dance class or going hiking or just something that’s very different from what you do in everyday life, something that’s maybe more in your body than in your head.”
Caroline: It can be very freeing to rip up the “rule book” and just go, do you know what I’m just going to do it. You don’t always have to have a plan, but that can be a very uncomfortable space to be in. And maybe you have to get comfortable with being a little uncomfortable to see what’s possible. This was definitely echoed by many of my guests, including Pasna Sallis, whose mission in life is to help people awaken their inner child, so this what she had to say.
Pasna Sallis: “You know what? Sometimes you’ve got to come out of your comfort zone to realise what else is possible. Otherwise, you’re stuck in that zone.”
Caroline: My tech founder friend Darren Crombie, from Bridgit Care also opened up about his journey, reflecting on it’s twists and turns.
Darren Crombie:”we are all just making it up, aren’t we? So none of us really has a plan or a clue. And I think our journey, when I set off four and a half years ago, is so different to where we are today.”
Caroline: And to do any of these things. To survive in life, creativity is the thing that underpins our ability to pivot and find our way. It gives us hope. I almost cried when Pei-I Yang shared this amazing piece of wisdom in our discussion.
Pei-I Yang: “Even when you are feeling hopeless, don’t forget you are still doing hope every day cause you haven’t given up. You’re still trying to find the solution.”
Caroline: Which is a great quote to lead me on to talking about some of my other favourite moments from the show over the past two years. And I of course need to include a quote about kindness. So this next one is something that Gemma Stuart shared.
Gemma Stuart: ”the best form of kindness for me, is me being able to speak my truth and being able to just talk through something”
Caroline: Listening is such an important skill and a true gift we can offer to others. Often people don’t need someone to fix things, they just need someone to listen and hold that space for them. When we’re able to speak our truth we can be in complete alignment and not have to hold in that stress and that worry.
I’ve seen directly how damaging stress and worry can be on the human body and if I take on any advice from my guests it’s Dr Monika Gostic who really resonated with me when she said this.
Dr Monika Gostic: “and let’s really start feeling amazing in our body. So to the point that we are radiating that energy and happiness and it just overflows to our children, to our spouses, and everything else that we’re doing.”
Caroline: We should feel amazing in our bodies, but most of us don’t, we speak to ourselves unkindly, we don’t look after ourselves, we deprioritise our own needs. So I will definitely be working on channelling some of Monika’s BAD, which is Balanced, Authentic and Deserving energy.
The last conversation I want to share with you was with Xann Schwinn. I wanted to share this because we spend so much of our lives comparing ourselves to others and feeling like we’re not enough.
Xann Schwinn: “I’ve studied music from 500 years ago to last year, and the vocal quality required for each of those things is very, very different. Me being trained in early traditional choral music requires a very different voice than somebody who’s singing R&B or soul or jazz. And when I was at Berklee for my undergraduate degree and I had all these incredible singers who were able to get up on stage and sing at these jazz clubs, and I couldn’t do that. I felt like a bad singer where I had been considered a good singer so much of my life. And that’s just context, right? It’s who you’re surrounding yourself with. It’s the genres that you’re listening to. You’re comparing yourself to something. You are being compared to something. And so maybe it’s just… This is why I love folk music so much. You think about traditional Irish songs, pub songs, Celtic music, and people are standing in a pub and you have a pint in your hand and you’re just like, sing it. It doesn’t matter what comes out of your mouth. And then everybody rises up around you and everyone singing together in song. And I think about those moments and I’m like, did it matter what people sounded like?”
Caroline: I think Xann’s experience is something we can all relate to, even outside of music. It’s something we all do. Sometimes it can be a way to motivate ourselves or maybe we see it as looking for inspiration, but more often, it leads us to feel like we’re failing, or falling behind or missing out.
So how do we reframe this? One way is to turn our gaze back to ourselves: to recognise our own strengths, celebrate our progress, even those tiny bits of progress, and remember that our worth isn’t defined by how we measure up to someone else. Instead of chasing someone else’s version of success, we need to focus on what brings us joy and meaning.
The next time you catch yourself comparing, pause and ask: What’s the context here? What makes my journey unique? And most importantly, how can I celebrate the things that make me, me? I think ultimately, all the conversations on the show have been about focusing on our own journey and what works for us, based on the context we are in and recognising that this context changes everything. And that nothing is set in stone. We can change that context, we can take action and we can take those small steps to improve our wellbeing.
I hope that you’ve enjoyed this episode looking back over the last couple of years and my journey into podcasting. I know a lot of people say they’d like to get into podcasting, but never quite get past the planning stage to actually launch it, or actually end up burn themselves out by trying to get whole seasons ready, and trying to plan this perfect launch and just holding onto it because they think it’s not ready. The truth is that it doesn’t need to be perfect, you don’t need fancy kit and you don’t need to follow the rules that people say you do. So if you’ve been procrastinating over creating your own podcast, my advice is just put it out there, publish at a frequency that doesn’t burn you out, that you can manage. I promise you that you will have so many amazing conversations and learn so much along the way. Trust me when I tell you this, there is, there is no magic formula, create whatever you are drawn to and just… focus on what makes you feel good. And remember it’s that’s process of creating, it’s not about followers. You know, don’t overanalyse and worry about what people will think. And yeah, you will just have such an amazing time going on that journey I promise you. And honestly of all of the things that I have done so far on my entrepreneurial journey, sharing these stories and having these conversations, it has yeah, definitely pushed me out of my comfort zone, but it has also brought me so much joy. So I have to say a massive thank you to my beautiful guests for sharing all their wisdom and life lessons and it’s just been amazing. And I also need to say thank you to everyone who has listened and supported me on this journey aswell.
Next month is officially the two year mark since I published the trailer to launch the show. So to celebrate I’d like to do a special episode that will collate all the ways my guests and you my beautiful listeners, create your kindspaces. So I’d love to hear from you. Whether your kindspace is something you’ve always gravitated towards, or something you’ve started doing more recently, I’d love to hear your stories and how it helps you to feel more centred and balanced. Perhaps you’ve even been inspired to try something after listening to one of my guests talk about their work or how they create their kindspace. I’d love to also see your pictures too, perhaps you have a favourite spot in your home or maybe you love the outdoors, maybe you love Munro bagging, or listening to live music, or spending time with family. If you have pictures that show us that kind of insight into what lights you up. It would bring me so much joy to see your smiling faces. So to get in touch with me, you can look me up on LinkedIn, it’s just Caroline Laurenson and if you want to, you can leave me a little voice note or you can message me on social media, the handle is just @createyourkindspace. I think we’re on pretty much most of the platforms, but not X cause I deleted my X account. But yeah, I would love to hear from you. Yeah, let me know how do you create your kindspace?
